Privaling wage determionation want to take another one with out the first one gets expired


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Hi,

 

I have recently got privaling wage determination for my  degree and job skills which is very high I might ask my lawyer to ask again to take another privaling wage with less experience and some changes in the advertisement so that I might get a less salary amount this time so i want to know weather it will be ok if I can ask my attorney to file a new privaling wage determination my first privaling wage was take in June 2013 its validity is untill next year so is it ok to take another privaling wage with out the first privaling wage is expired 

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hi nagesh,

It is quite common to get higher prevailing wages from DOL.  There are so many agencies, public and big private agenices, who reduced pay scales or not offering payes recently and that do not reflect at DOL.  Even public agencies, i mean state agencies, are not offering such scales.  I don't understand how DOL comes up with such high numbers.

 

your employer can request prevailing wages as many as they want for multiple positions.  It is only informational purpose, for employers to understand what the prevailing wages are in that area.. there is no cost involved, except lawyer's time and fee..  PWD will not state employee name for whom employer requesting.  So your name does not appear at any place on PWD.  A single PWD can be used for multiple employees also.  

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hi nagesh,

It is quite common to get higher prevailing wages from DOL.  There are so many agencies, public and big private agenices, who reduced pay scales or not offering payes recently and that do not reflect at DOL.  Even public agencies, i mean state agencies, are not offering such scales.  I don't understand how DOL comes up with such high numbers.

The numbers come from employers, who are actually required to report the salaries of their employees. So, these numbers ARE real. It is just that you seem to be working in a company that pays below standard...

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hi nagesh,

It is quite common to get higher prevailing wages from DOL.  There are so many agencies, public and big private agenices, who reduced pay scales or not offering payes recently and that do not reflect at DOL.  Even public agencies, i mean state agencies, are not offering such scales.  I don't understand how DOL comes up with such high numbers.

 

your employer can request prevailing wages as many as they want for multiple positions.  It is only informational purpose, for employers to understand what the prevailing wages are in that area.. there is no cost involved, except lawyer's time and fee..  PWD will not state employee name for whom employer requesting.  So your name does not appear at any place on PWD.  A single PWD can be used for multiple employees also.  

Thanks Satya for your time in answering my questions.

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The numbers come from employers, who are actually required to report the salaries of their employees. So, these numbers ARE real. It is just that you seem to be working in a company that pays below standard...

Thanks Joe for your time and comments.

 

Yeah its high I know because I have a Higher degree and my employer address in Newyork city so its high . 

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The numbers come from employers, who are actually required to report the salaries of their employees. So, these numbers ARE real. It is just that you seem to be working in a company that pays below standard...

That's right. USDOL surveys wages being offered in particular area as defined in OES database.

They get data which is completely unattributable though and some large employers in small area can skew wages.

The way USDOL PERM is laid out is your position + education + area determines the prevailing wage. Also to keep in mind is that usually the attoney will propose level 2 or 3 wages for EB2 position which are not very complex and managerial in nature. But again DOL can come back with higher wage, but OES is usually the benchmark. Also your SVP and other factors determine PWD. Employer can also challenge USDOL PWD in different ways using surveys and other methods.

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That's right. USDOL surveys wages being offered in particular area as defined in OES database.

They get data which is completely unattributable though and some large employers in small area can skew wages.

The way USDOL PERM is laid out is your position + education + area determines the prevailing wage. Also to keep in mind is that usually the attoney will propose level 2 or 3 wages for EB2 position which are not very complex and managerial in nature. But again DOL can come back with higher wage, but OES is usually the benchmark. Also your SVP and other factors determine PWD. Employer can also challenge USDOL PWD in different ways using surveys and other methods.

Thanks njdude

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That's right. USDOL surveys wages being offered in particular area as defined in OES database.

They get data which is completely unattributable though and some large employers in small area can skew wages.

The way USDOL PERM is laid out is your position + education + area determines the prevailing wage. Also to keep in mind is that usually the attoney will propose level 2 or 3 wages for EB2 position which are not very complex and managerial in nature. But again DOL can come back with higher wage, but OES is usually the benchmark. Also your SVP and other factors determine PWD. Employer can also challenge USDOL PWD in different ways using surveys and other methods.

 

That's right. USDOL surveys wages being offered in particular area as defined in OES database.

They get data which is completely unattributable though and some large employers in small area can skew wages.

The way USDOL PERM is laid out is your position + education + area determines the prevailing wage. Also to keep in mind is that usually the attoney will propose level 2 or 3 wages for EB2 position which are not very complex and managerial in nature. But again DOL can come back with higher wage, but OES is usually the benchmark. Also your SVP and other factors determine PWD. Employer can also challenge USDOL PWD in different ways using surveys and other methods.

Of course the data is anonymized.

Large employers can skew the data, of course, but that could be in either direction. For example, MS used to pay below average (I don't know recent data about it). With stock options etc. people still got paid well, but that didn't show up in the wage data.

As you said, there are some other accepted salary surveys/data collections that can be used.

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