h1i140 Posted January 12, 2018 Report Share Posted January 12, 2018 Please let me know if you know of anyone who got RFE on specialty occupation (for IT project manager) and got approved? If so, please provide some guidance on how to document this? thank you. Background: B.Tech (CSE) in India and Masters in USA. Employed by a big-4 tech consulting firm. Quote Link to comment
Surfer123 Posted January 12, 2018 Report Share Posted January 12, 2018 Search some more on this forum but below might give some insight - probably not the same title as your but some backgrounds might fit. Quote Link to comment
h1i140 Posted January 12, 2018 Author Report Share Posted January 12, 2018 Please respond if you know of any? thank you. Quote Link to comment
chkc Posted January 12, 2018 Report Share Posted January 12, 2018 I got the same and employer prepared the documentation . Quote Link to comment
h1i140 Posted January 12, 2018 Author Report Share Posted January 12, 2018 1 hour ago, chkchaitanya21 said: I got the same and employer prepared the documentation . Yours got approved? Could you please let me know how you prepared for the documentation? Quote Link to comment
h1i140 Posted January 12, 2018 Author Report Share Posted January 12, 2018 I went through few USCIS denail documents based on project manager-specialty occupation RFE; it says that the petitioner couldn't provide enough evidence that project manager required a bachelors degree and so USCIS decided to deny. Itseems as per the occupational outlook handbook, which DOL follows, many firms will hire project managers - but they don't necessarily need to have bachelors degree because they (uscis/dol) thinks that companies will hire well rounded graduates from other fields too who are willing to spend time in job, gain experience and advances to upper positions such as project manager. if this is how it is, then RFE on specialty occupation for "project manager" will surely lead to a denial. How else can we provide enough supporting documentation to prove project manager as specialty occupation (even with a b.tech-computer science and masters in USA). Need your inputs. Please. Quote Link to comment
chkc Posted January 12, 2018 Report Share Posted January 12, 2018 (edited) 1 hour ago, h1i140 said: Yours got approved? Could you please let me know how you prepared for the documentation? Not yet approved. Response is on the way to USCIS. My employer has prepared the documentation and didnt shared the response with me. My case is a h1b transfer Edited January 12, 2018 by chkchaitanya21 Added some info Quote Link to comment
Karn89 Posted January 12, 2018 Report Share Posted January 12, 2018 (edited) 12 hours ago, h1i140 said: Please let me know if you know of anyone who got RFE on specialty occupation (for IT project manager) and got approved? If so, please provide some guidance on how to document this? thank you. Background: B.Tech (CSE) in India and Masters in USA. Employed by a big-4 tech consulting firm. Mine got approved. I provided the following documents: 1) Detailed description of job duties with % of time spent on each one. 2) Profile of few colleagues in the job position similar to that of mine having same degree as I have. 3) Job postings of the similar positions in the company's career site where my degree is required. 4) Job postings of the similar positions in other companies' career site where my degree is required. 5) A letter from the HR stating the details of your project. 6) Details regarding how are you being supervised for each and every job responsibility. 7) Pay stubs, Office ID and other supporting documents confirming your affiliation to the company. Let me know if you have further questions. Thanks! Edited January 12, 2018 by Karn89 Quote Link to comment
Surfer123 Posted January 12, 2018 Report Share Posted January 12, 2018 3 hours ago, h1i140 said: I went through few USCIS denail documents based on project manager-specialty occupation RFE; it says that the petitioner couldn't provide enough evidence that project manager required a bachelors degree and so USCIS decided to deny. Itseems as per the occupational outlook handbook, which DOL follows, many firms will hire project managers - but they don't necessarily need to have bachelors degree because they (uscis/dol) thinks that companies will hire well rounded graduates from other fields too who are willing to spend time in job, gain experience and advances to upper positions such as project manager. if this is how it is, then RFE on specialty occupation for "project manager" will surely lead to a denial. How else can we provide enough supporting documentation to prove project manager as specialty occupation (even with a b.tech-computer science and masters in USA). Need your inputs. Please. Unless the job requirements are too generic and simple, a qualified attorney with the help from you and/or your employer should be able to come up with a strong response. If your consultancy is an Indian based company that provides blue collar personnel to other employers here, I am aware of these kind of managerial titles being used a lot with very generic job description. In that case, a lot more justification and paperwork might be needed from your employer. Good luck. Between, just curious, you mentioned this is an extension - so was your earlier H1 with this employer for same role and responsibilities? Quote Link to comment
h1i140 Posted January 13, 2018 Author Report Share Posted January 13, 2018 6 hours ago, Surfer123 said: Unless the job requirements are too generic and simple, a qualified attorney with the help from you and/or your employer should be able to come up with a strong response. If your consultancy is an Indian based company that provides blue collar personnel to other employers here, I am aware of these kind of managerial titles being used a lot with very generic job description. In that case, a lot more justification and paperwork might be needed from your employer. Good luck. Between, just curious, you mentioned this is an extension - so was your earlier H1 with this employer for same role and responsibilities? Thank you. My earlier extension (3 years back) was on a different role/responsibilities. Would that be another problem? However, my recent amendment applied in 2016 (approved in early 2017), was on the same role/responsilities and the ammendment got approved. Quote Link to comment
h1i140 Posted January 13, 2018 Author Report Share Posted January 13, 2018 7 hours ago, Karn89 said: Mine got approved. I provided the following documents: 1) Detailed description of job duties with % of time spent on each one. 2) Profile of few colleagues in the job position similar to that of mine having same degree as I have. 3) Job postings of the similar positions in the company's career site where my degree is required. 4) Job postings of the similar positions in other companies' career site where my degree is required. 5) A letter from the HR stating the details of your project. 6) Details regarding how are you being supervised for each and every job responsibility. 7) Pay stubs, Office ID and other supporting documents confirming your affiliation to the company. Let me know if you have further questions. Thanks! Thanks a lot. Is this for a 'Project Manager' role? If so, can I contact you by email, please? Quote Link to comment
h1i140 Posted January 13, 2018 Author Report Share Posted January 13, 2018 7 hours ago, Karn89 said: Mine got approved. I provided the following documents: 1) Detailed description of job duties with % of time spent on each one. 2) Profile of few colleagues in the job position similar to that of mine having same degree as I have. 3) Job postings of the similar positions in the company's career site where my degree is required. 4) Job postings of the similar positions in other companies' career site where my degree is required. 5) A letter from the HR stating the details of your project. 6) Details regarding how are you being supervised for each and every job responsibility. 7) Pay stubs, Office ID and other supporting documents confirming your affiliation to the company. Let me know if you have further questions. Thanks! In One denial notice, USCIS says "The position cannot qualify as a specialty occupation because, as even the petitioner's finance manager and counsel have admitted, it can be performed by a person with a bachelor's degree in either communications or business." Many project manager job requirements mention basic requirement as bachelors degree - but they are open to any kind of specialization (such as computer science, business, etc.,). Even for masters too - they are open for several specializations. What if USCIS denies my petition saying my role doesn't need bachelors/masters exclusively in what I have specialized. How to handle this situation? Please provide your inputs. Quote Link to comment
Karn89 Posted January 13, 2018 Report Share Posted January 13, 2018 9 hours ago, h1i140 said: Thanks a lot. Is this for a 'Project Manager' role? If so, can I contact you by email, please? Mine was Sr Quality Engineer role. However, the general documentation requirement shall be the same in my opinion. Check with your attorney; he/she will touch base with you in case anything would be needed from your end. Good luck! Quote Link to comment
Surfer123 Posted January 13, 2018 Report Share Posted January 13, 2018 (edited) 18 hours ago, h1i140 said: Thank you. My earlier extension (3 years back) was on a different role/responsibilities. Would that be another problem? However, my recent amendment applied in 2016 (approved in early 2017), was on the same role/responsilities and the ammendment got approved. From couple of years back I am aware of couple of cases in my circle where changing from Developer kind of job to QA and BA had resulted in RFE’s. But they got through them with no issues. When u got ur amendment, that was still not a time where there was much scrutiny. However this is Trump era and nothing is guaranteed. Anyway, I believe how generic or detailed your current job is will have a bearing on how much justification your firm has to provide. If the denial details u are sharing are from your company and those tied to petitions filed by ur employer for similar position for other beneficiaries, I guess ur attorneys will and should try a different or more wholeseme justification approach for u. Good luck. Edited January 13, 2018 by Surfer123 Quote Link to comment
Gopinathan Posted June 8, 2018 Report Share Posted June 8, 2018 On 1/13/2018 at 1:59 AM, Karn89 said: Mine got approved. I provided the following documents: 1) Detailed description of job duties with % of time spent on each one. 2) Profile of few colleagues in the job position similar to that of mine having same degree as I have. 3) Job postings of the similar positions in the company's career site where my degree is required. 4) Job postings of the similar positions in other companies' career site where my degree is required. 5) A letter from the HR stating the details of your project. 6) Details regarding how are you being supervised for each and every job responsibility. 7) Pay stubs, Office ID and other supporting documents confirming your affiliation to the company. Let me know if you have further questions. Thanks! Can you share the Detailed description of job duties with % of time spent on each one. which you sent . Quote Link to comment
rag0221 Posted June 18, 2018 Report Share Posted June 18, 2018 On 1/12/2018 at 10:50 PM, h1i140 said: In One denial notice, USCIS says "The position cannot qualify as a specialty occupation because, as even the petitioner's finance manager and counsel have admitted, it can be performed by a person with a bachelor's degree in either communications or business." Many project manager job requirements mention basic requirement as bachelors degree - but they are open to any kind of specialization (such as computer science, business, etc.,). Even for masters too - they are open for several specializations. What if USCIS denies my petition saying my role doesn't need bachelors/masters exclusively in what I have specialized. How to handle this situation? Please provide your inputs. Hello , I got similar RFE recently..Can you please let me know if your H-1 got approved..if so, can you please provide what all documents you submitted Quote Link to comment
Abhi86 Posted November 27, 2018 Report Share Posted November 27, 2018 RFE for my H1B extension (specialty occupation) was approved today. Let me know if there are any questions. Happy to help. Quote Link to comment
Approval_2290 Posted November 28, 2018 Report Share Posted November 28, 2018 (edited) On 11/26/2018 at 7:03 PM, Abhi86 said: RFE for my H1B extension (specialty occupation) was approved today. Let me know if there are any questions. Happy to help. Can you help me with the documents you provided? Edited November 28, 2018 by Approval_2290 Quote Link to comment
anilg Posted December 15, 2018 Report Share Posted December 15, 2018 Can you help me with the docs submitted for job description. Quote Link to comment
GSP101 Posted February 5, 2019 Report Share Posted February 5, 2019 On 11/28/2018 at 2:13 PM, Approval_2290 said: Can you help me with the documents you provided? Hope you have success in your application, can you please share your experience and if you have any documents to share for helping similar situation ? Quote Link to comment
Khatri Posted March 31, 2019 Report Share Posted March 31, 2019 On 1/12/2018 at 3:29 PM, Karn89 said: Mine got approved. I provided the following documents: 1) Detailed description of job duties with % of time spent on each one. 2) Profile of few colleagues in the job position similar to that of mine having same degree as I have. 3) Job postings of the similar positions in the company's career site where my degree is required. 4) Job postings of the similar positions in other companies' career site where my degree is required. 5) A letter from the HR stating the details of your project. 6) Details regarding how are you being supervised for each and every job responsibility. 7) Pay stubs, Office ID and other supporting documents confirming your affiliation to the company. Let me know if you have further questions. Thanks! I got the RFE for same reason. Can you please share some general documents and the format which could help me. Documents which have general information. What was your SOC code Quote Link to comment
Khatri Posted March 31, 2019 Report Share Posted March 31, 2019 On 6/8/2018 at 4:54 PM, Gopinathan said: Can you share the Detailed description of job duties with % of time spent on each one. which you sent . Please share the general documents as i got the RFE for the same reason. Quote Link to comment
KumarDBA Posted April 10, 2019 Report Share Posted April 10, 2019 On 11/26/2018 at 7:03 PM, Abhi86 said: RFE for my H1B extension (specialty occupation) was approved today. Let me know if there are any questions. Happy to help. Hi Abhi, I see no one responded to your good news, even though its lil bit old now...Congratulations. I have similar RFE for H1b extension, mine is DBA position and my attorney didn't ask for many details. he just asked me to provide : 1. project details . 2. Job role and responsibilities with % of various tasks. I feel like this is not sufficient for a RFE response. Please help me what are the supporting documents you have provided and what are the important points I need to specify in the response documentation? please help Kumar Quote Link to comment
h1l Posted May 20, 2019 Report Share Posted May 20, 2019 Can you please provide the same documentation. need help for Specialty occupation RFE Quote Link to comment
sunny454 Posted July 12, 2019 Report Share Posted July 12, 2019 (edited) I got the same specialty occupation rfe this year. Can you please help me with the documentation? please let me know. Thank you. Edited July 12, 2019 by sunny454 Quote Link to comment
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