ImmigrationH1B Posted March 13, 2014 Report Share Posted March 13, 2014 One of my friend applied two H1B’s one with Actual Employer and another with one consultancy as Internal Project just to Increase the chances of getting picked in Lottery and he got RFE and asked how you can work at both places and how did other Employer recruited a lot and kept both H1 B on hold, is it not right to apply multiple H1B’s from different consultancies just to increase chances to pick in lottery Link to comment
JoeF Posted March 13, 2014 Report Share Posted March 13, 2014 Multiple applications don't increase the chances. In fact, they can decrease them, since USCIS issues RFEs in such cases, as your friend found out. Link to comment
rahul412 Posted March 13, 2014 Report Share Posted March 13, 2014 One of my friend applied two H1B’s one with Actual Employer and another with one consultancy as Internal Project just to Increase the chances of getting picked in Lottery and he got RFE and asked how you can work at both places and how did other Employer recruited a lot and kept both H1 B on hold, is it not right to apply multiple H1B’s from different consultancies just to increase chances to pick in lottery Multiple H1's doesn't increase chances. Was this H1 applied last year?? I am surprised that he got RFE almost after one year. Link to comment
ImmigrationH1B Posted March 15, 2014 Author Report Share Posted March 15, 2014 No he got last year itself Link to comment
rahul412 Posted March 16, 2014 Report Share Posted March 16, 2014 No he got last year itself Multiple H1's are fine if they are filed by different employers. But you get into trouble with RFE's because these days people are misusing the H1 by filing multiple H1's with no intention of joining that employer. And because of that many people are not able to get their H1's So its better to file one H1 to avoid RFE's. Link to comment
chakrakr Posted March 16, 2014 Report Share Posted March 16, 2014 Multiple H1's are fine if they are filed by different employers. But you get into trouble with RFE's because these days people are misusing the H1 by filing multiple H1's with no intention of joining that employer. And because of that many people are not able to get their H1's So its better to file one H1 to avoid RFE's. Rahul, in Post 3 you said "Multiple H1's doesn't increase chances.". Here you are saying " people are misusing the H1 by filing multiple H1's with no intention of joining that employer. And because of that many people are not able to get their H1's". Man you are confused ! Link to comment
rahul412 Posted March 17, 2014 Report Share Posted March 17, 2014 Rahul, in Post 3 you said "Multiple H1's doesn't increase chances.". Here you are saying " people are misusing the H1 by filing multiple H1's with no intention of joining that employer. And because of that many people are not able to get their H1's". Man you are confused ! Okay, let's make it clear. Multiple H1's can be filed by different employers but they doesn't increase chances. Filing multiple H1's with no intention of joining that employer is nothing but misuse of H1. Link to comment
JoeF Posted March 17, 2014 Report Share Posted March 17, 2014 Multiple applications don't increase the chances. In fact, they decrease them, due to RFEs and audits based on suspicion of foul play. Link to comment
chakrakr Posted March 17, 2014 Report Share Posted March 17, 2014 Okay, let's make it clear. Multiple H1's can be filed by different employers but they doesn't increase chances. Filing multiple H1's with no intention of joining that employer is nothing but misuse of H1. So it will not caue any harm to others who are applying for the lottery, right? So how come "many people are not able to get their H1's" ? Are those many people those who applied for more than one H1 ? If so, you can be at peace that the possibilities of genuine H1 aspirants are not at stake ..... right ? Link to comment
simk Posted March 17, 2014 Report Share Posted March 17, 2014 Rahul, in Post 3 you said "Multiple H1's doesn't increase chances.". Here you are saying " people are misusing the H1 by filing multiple H1's with no intention of joining that employer. And because of that many people are not able to get their H1's". Man you are confused ! I agree with you.. confused people, helping other people get conused Link to comment
JoeF Posted March 17, 2014 Report Share Posted March 17, 2014 So it will not caue any harm to others who are applying for the lottery, right? No, but it will harm the person who has multiple applications, due to RFEs and audits. I am amazed that you wish people harm... Link to comment
rahul412 Posted March 18, 2014 Report Share Posted March 18, 2014 So it will not caue any harm to others who are applying for the lottery, right? So how come "many people are not able to get their H1's" ? Are those many people those who applied for more than one H1 ? If so, you can be at peace that the possibilities of genuine H1 aspirants are not at stake ..... right ? I think you are right. I agree with you.....thanks for the clarification. Link to comment
rahul412 Posted March 18, 2014 Report Share Posted March 18, 2014 I agree with you.. confused people, helping other people get conused Then you should have posted the exact information before chakrakr did it. Link to comment
rahul412 Posted March 18, 2014 Report Share Posted March 18, 2014 So it will not caue any harm to others who are applying for the lottery, right? So how come "many people are not able to get their H1's" ? Are those many people those who applied for more than one H1 ? If so, you can be at peace that the possibilities of genuine H1 aspirants are not at stake ..... right ? But what about the RFE's?? Link to comment
simk Posted March 18, 2014 Report Share Posted March 18, 2014 Then you should have posted the exact information before chakrakr did it. dude.. i saw the message.. only after chakrakar posted that message... Link to comment
chakrakr Posted March 18, 2014 Report Share Posted March 18, 2014 But what about the RFE's?? RFE's to whom ? The ones who fraudulently paid and filed multiple H1 ? That what you and your master are preaching -- all multiple filers are frauds ... pay for their H1. And if that is true, are you (and your master) saying that you want the frauds to get H1 ? If the are genuine , why should they be scared of RFE ? Link to comment
JoeF Posted March 18, 2014 Report Share Posted March 18, 2014 But what about the RFE's?? chakrakar doesn't care about that. He is just stalking. Link to comment
rahul412 Posted March 18, 2014 Report Share Posted March 18, 2014 RFE's to whom ? The ones who fraudulently paid and filed multiple H1 ? That what you and your master are preaching -- all multiple filers are frauds ... pay for their H1. And if that is true, are you (and your master) saying that you want the frauds to get H1 ? I am not saying that. Just take a look at this forum and see how many people are abusing the H1 program. If a person has a genuine employment then he won't bother about multiple H1's. Coming to H1 sponsoring employers, even the top most sponsoring companies are abusing (misusing) this program by simply filing 100's of applications even though they won't send those employees to US immediately after the approval, they just keep them on hold. And when there is a requirement at client location instead of hiring US employee they send this person to US (since he already has an H1). If you take a look into their H1 petition, you will be surprised to know that his salary is very less when compared to US employee’s salary. Link to comment
chakrakr Posted March 19, 2014 Report Share Posted March 19, 2014 chakrakar doesn't care about that. He is just stalking. I suggest you take some English Lesson to understand the meaning of stalking. I replied to Rahul when you burged in. Anyway, so you are saying you are caring about all those who are illegaly paying for their H1 . In another thread you said "(most people who have multiple applications paid for the applications, which is illegal.)" . Good to see that you only care about illegals (we know, of course, your heart cries for illegals :) ) As I said earlier, I will always be there whenever you make a disingenious statement (does WARN ring a bell ?) ... you may not like it though . Get out of name calling and learn how to support your arguments. Link to comment
rahul412 Posted March 19, 2014 Report Share Posted March 19, 2014 RFE's to whom ? The ones who fraudulently paid and filed multiple H1 ? That what you and your master are preaching -- all multiple filers are frauds ... pay for their H1. And if that is true, are you (and your master) saying that you want the frauds to get H1 ? If the are genuine , why should they be scared of RFE ? Genuine candidates aren't worried about the multiple H1's .Because their H1 will be approved no matter how many petitions are filed on their behalf. Yes, most of the multiple filers are frauds since they are simply filing H1 to increase their chances in the lottery. Link to comment
simk Posted March 19, 2014 Report Share Posted March 19, 2014 chakrakar doesn't care about that. He is just stalking. and what are you doing?... just advocating your theories? Link to comment
chakrakr Posted March 20, 2014 Report Share Posted March 20, 2014 I am not saying that. Just take a look at this forum and see how many people are abusing the H1 program. If a person has a genuine employment then he won't bother about multiple H1's. Be clear on what you are saying . This is what you said earlier "And because of that many people are not able to get their H1's" . Be clear for whom you are concerned . Link to comment
rahul412 Posted March 20, 2014 Report Share Posted March 20, 2014 Be clear on what you are saying . This is what you said earlier "And because of that many people are not able to get their H1's" . Be clear for whom you are concerned . That was a wrong statement and I agreed to tht. How come this is related to my previous post?? Link to comment
chakrakr Posted March 21, 2014 Report Share Posted March 21, 2014 I am not saying that. Just take a look at this forum and see how many people are abusing the H1 program. If a person has a genuine employment then he won't bother about multiple H1's. Coming to H1 sponsoring employers, even the top most sponsoring companies are abusing (misusing) this program by simply filing 100's of applications even though they won't send those employees to US immediately after the approval, they just keep them on hold. And when there is a requirement at client location instead of hiring US employee they send this person to US (since he already has an H1). If you take a look into their H1 petition, you will be surprised to know that his salary is very less when compared to US employee’s salary. This is what you said in another thread "Just filing H1 without any intention of joining that employer is misuse because a genuine candidate had lost his chance of getting his H1." Can you explain how a genuine candidate lost his chance of getting H1 ? I appreciate your crusade against those who file H1 illegaly paying the employer. But please do not take the help of some imaginary theories. Link to comment
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